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London traders living in fear and paranoia as the LIBOR scandal claims people who changed jobs THREE YEARS ago. There is no escape

When banking is a closed door (Photo credit: Vincent van der Pas)

When banking is a closed door (Photo credit: Vincent van der Pas)

Among those watching Marcus Agius testify live to the Treasury Select Committee this morning, one group is likely to have attended especially avidly: the ex-Libor traders sitting at home waiting for the FSA to finish its investigation, wondering whether criminal charges will be brought against them and they’ll be extradited to the US. Some of their former supervisors are already said to have engaged criminal defence lawyers in anticipation of just such an outcome.  

The net is closing, and not just at Barclays. Earlier this week, Deutsche suspended two traders as part of its Libor enquiry. Mitsubishi suspended two more yesterday.

FX and rates headhunters say there are now around 30 people out of the market altogether.

Some have been sitting about for more than 12 months.Blacklisted by the FSA unless exonerated, they can’t get new jobs. Nor are they, or any of their still-employed colleagues generally willing to discuss their problems: “They’re all working with the FSA and have signed agreements not to talk about it,” says one senior FX headhunter.

The good news is that exoneration does happen. Lloyds suspended FX trader Alexandre Dube and interest rate derivatives trader John Argent in March while it probed their alleged involvement in Libor fixing. Both were reinstated in June.

The bad news is that even if you’ve changed jobs and are happy doing something completely different, you may be hunted down and then suspended in your new position for Libor misdemeanours past .

The sorry story of Schluep and Robson 

This is what happened to Christian Schluep and Paul Robson.

The two Mitsubishi traders suspended yesterday were reportedly put on pause while an investigation is launched into activities pre-dating their arrival at Mitsubishi.

Both men previously worked at Rabobank, which is under investigation for Libor fixing. Robson joined Mitsubishi in August 2009. Schluep joined in August 2010. Both have now been registered as inactive with the FSA.

These are often just juniors

One headhunter who says he is in contact with a lot of the unhappy Libor traders (although not Robson or Schluep specifically), says they’re mostly juniors who’ve been treated unfairly.

“I’ve interviewed guys, especially junior guys who say they’d only worked there for 3-5 years and were doing their job,” he says. “Senior management told them to do it. It was the norm.”

Schluep left Durham University in 2001 with a 2.1 in economics, maths and management, suggesting he’s around 32 now. He started working at Rabobank in 2003 and moved to Mitsubishi in 2010 after studying at the IFS School of Finance, formerly known as the Chartered Institute of Bankers.

These are not hotshot sorts traders 

Another headhunter says most of the traders implicated in the Libor scandal aren’t hotshot types, but people who got cornered in a mundane area of banks’ treasury departments and hoped to move speedily on to something better paid and more interesting. “It’s not like they were working on rates swaps desks,” he reflects.

This doesn’t mean the people implicated in the Libor scandal were badly paid. It does mean they weren’t paid as much as some of their colleagues.

“A junior treasury trader might earn a total package of £100k-200k,” says one headhunter. “A head of a treasury desk might earn £300k-400k.”

By comparison, he says top rates swap traders can earn seven figures. “Treasury is just a less prestigious place to work,” he concludes. Unfortunately for some people, a spell on a Treasury desk in the late 2000s may end up blighting their entire career.

 

 

 

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  1. Do we know whether Robson went to university, and what (if any) subject he studied? I think it’s crucial that we have all the relevant facts in this case before making any judgements.

  2. That headhunter is utterly clueless.

    The money markets desk at an IB will be supplying the LIBOR quotes as that is where the short term cash trading will sit, on the trading book. I seriously doubt a junior money market trader will get £200k these days. It will typically not be part of treasury.

    Treasury is generally a transfer pricing, term funding, capital management and balance sheet management area for the banking book. Quite clearly compensation is completely different. A mid-senior (i.e. 10yrs +) person in treasury is £150-£250k. Junior £50-£100k.

  3. Money Markets does sit in Treasury in quite a few banks while in others in sits in Markets. Depends on which bank you are in. But the Treasurer always have oversight of the LIBOR rates….

  4. I read an article in a financial publication that suggested Mr Robson attended Pooksville university , which I’m lead to believe is in the Midwest of the USA . I don’t recall which subjects he studied there.

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