as usual, Hamsterman has the essence

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GUEST COMMENT: There are plenty of mediocre bankers at Golden Sacks

I’d like to make a confession: I once worked at Goldman Sachs. Does this make me a money grabbing, elitist, higher performer? I like to think not. It does, however, mean that I’m viewed with a degree of admiration by all the people who’d like to have worked there, but haven’t.

I have plenty of stories to tell – colleagues who were almost thrown out for trips to strip clubs, children of prominent politicians who were apparently shooed through the interview process for their connections. I learnt a lot and met some genuinely smart and driven people. I was also surprised to find that there are plenty of mediocre bankers at the firm- despite its policy of removing the bottom layer each year. Goldman breeds loyalty and big egos, by making people believe that it is a cut above the rest. I’ve noticed that even friends who have left GS are still wistful about their time at the firm.

The infamous Lloyd Blankfein interview in the Times makes an interesting point. Namely, that Goldman takes top performers, the brightest & the best – and make them feel B grade. It undoubtedly pays top performers well, but I’ve often wondered if they are subsidised by the bottom 89%, who are happy to take a haircut for the prestige of working at the ‘best investment bank’.

Goldman engenders a culture of entrepreneurialism. The firm’s ability to invest profitably for its own account is well-known. Even flow traders are encouraged to take substantial P&L risks.

Many believed the firm was on the verge of bankruptcy in September 2008. Instead it became a bank holding company to access cheap government funds. Some point to Warren Buffet’s investment at this low point (despite being badly burnt on Salomon Bros in the 1980′s) as an endorsement of its continuing ability to make profits – why else would he have invested $5bn in the firm? However the preference shares he owns have almost first call on profits the company makes.

If you’re working at Goldman, the real reward comes after you leave. Successful Goldman alumni are abundant in the most successful hedge fund and private equity shops. Many top performers have struck out to start their own firms and raising investor money is a lot easier if you have a track record of profitability – a Goldman Midas Touch.

Goldman is a well-oiled money making machine. So what that partners are getting their bonuses capped at 1m this year? I suspect the firm will find a way of remunerating its people well neverthelss, and that it will also find a way of avoiding the Volcker Rule, if it is enforced. Don’t be surprised if Goldman even finds a way to strengthen its position in a post-Volcker world.

Comments (16)
  1. I’d like to make a confession: I once worked at Goldman Sachs. Does this make me a money grabbing, elitist, higher performer?

    Yes, well not necessarily high performer – you don’t work there any more after all.

  2. is this guest commentator…. Sarah Butcher?

  3. @cynic – No.

  4. My guess? You worked in the FICC… yeah, there are a lot of mediocre people in the FICC…. like in every trading floor in London. But the M&A side of the business is different, more elitist, higher quality

  5. Please refrain from cheap one line comments and try to add some value.The above comments are like a cheap magazine gossip column. Allow for some constructive arguments alternatively take a seat back and LEE-LAX.

  6. rabobank is the only AAA rated bank = elite. chupame el rabo

  7. @CDO Hero -
    M&A side of the business???? Mate, you need to wake up. What planet do you live on? At Goldmans, they swim like the bucket shop sharks, just like the rest of ‘em.

  8. Hahahah!!!!!!! I like this article! And I will reveal it to be true, I worked at GS once! Just for four years but I survived. And I milk it every day! Just left a job and now looking for new opportunities but I can choose! Hurray for Goldman!!!!!

  9. I LOVE when former bankers split on their previous bank. Really, I love reading all these traders saying that the financial industry is bad, evil or whatever. That’s very easy once you left! I’m still a junior and I wish I could to a career in finance, maybe at Goldman Sachs, I don’t know… And me too, I know that once I earned a lot of money, I will say that GS sucks, that the whole finance sucks. And also that entrepreneurship is the best job ever, that traders are scamer or what you want…

    No really I’m serious, stop your bulls*** guys. Talk when you still are in the firm, your company, but don’t come with your stupid speech once you have your money in your pocket, that’s totally unreleveant from my point of view.

    Sincerly,

  10. Agree. I work for GS for about a year, due to all the hype about GS i must admit i was thrilled at first to be one of the “chosen ones” ,selected to be a part of the elite, so far away from the pack (at least it’s what they told me). But honestly now i can’t see such a difference of quality with my former employer: people are smart but not smarter than others. In fact, culture is the only difference. For exemple, the famous “yearly performance cut off “has nothing to do with perf : it just boils down to a soviet politburo kind of stuff judging your personality : if you dare take a few days off, let your BB ring twice before answering at 3 am or sleep more than 5 hours per day then you are considered as not productive and fired! I saw brillant but maverick people being fired and average but 20/24 workoholic guys (they don’t have mediocre guys, that at least is true) being promoted. So work > brain, no matter what they say. Some will say i’m a loser (and i don’t give a sh…) but i can’t stand it anymore and i’ll leave.

  11. Goldmans is to efinancial what bad weather is to the daily mail. They are topics used to fill up the news columns but they are topics nobody really cares about.

    Sarah please try finding something a little more interesting to report on.

  12. @GreedIsGood – give up now, you can’t spell and “unreleveant” isn’t even a word!

  13. Quite liked the article actually, and the comments section below as usual confirmed the authors’ arguments – ie. people want to work at Goldmans for prestige factors – and are willing to kiss goodbye to a 5-year portion of their life in order to do so…..

  14. i too previously worked at an IB – every firm is full of good operators who differentiate themselves from their peers internally and externally. It is life and it is about perform or be outperformed!

  15. as usual, Hamsterman has the essence

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